1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,000 It's May 3rd, 1957, and a young military officer is about to watch a film that was shot a few hours earlier. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:23,000 What he's watching is nothing more than a negative, but already he can tell that the images on the film are extraordinary. 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 The film shows an unknown disc-shaped craft landing on the ground. 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Six years later, this young officer, the Roy Gordon Cooper, became a national hero when he became the last American astronaut to fly solo in a Mercury capsule. 5 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,000 As for the film he saw, its contents still remain a state secret. 6 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:00,000 The film is a film that was shot in the air in the early 1970s. 7 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,000 The film is a film that was shot in the early 1970s. 8 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,000 The film is a film that was shot in the early 1970s. 9 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,000 The film is a film that was shot in the early 1970s. 10 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,000 The film is a film that was shot in the early 1970s. 11 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,000 The film is a film that was shot in the early 1970s. 12 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,000 It is said that UFOs have always been an ongoing concern for the Army, both in the US and abroad. 13 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Military commanders have even classified this subject as ultra-top secret. 14 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Are these rumors true? Are UFOs really a state secret? 15 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:51,000 On December 30, 1947, faced with a growing number of UFO sightings being reported throughout the country, 16 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Defense Secretary James Forrest Dahl set up an investigation committee. 17 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:05,000 The Air Technical Intelligence Center, or ATIC, was located at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. 18 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 The committee was known as Project Sign. 19 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Before it even had time to determine protocol, the US Air Force was faced with a crisis. 20 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,000 On the afternoon of January 7, 1948, barely a week after Project Sign had been created, 21 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Thomas Mantell, a pilot with the National Guard, crashed in his P-51 while pursuing a large silver-colored sphere over Kentucky. 22 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 This incident was the first to be investigated by Project Sign. 23 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,000 According to investigators, Mantell mistook Venus for an unknown craft. 24 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:47,000 He was not wearing an oxygen mask, so he must have gone beyond a safe altitude, lost consciousness, and crashed to the ground. 25 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,000 This explanation was far from convincing to military commanders. 26 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 In 1952, the Mantell case was investigated by the US Air Force, 27 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,000 who concluded that the pilot had probably mistaken a sky-book balloon for a UFO. 28 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 There's a significance to Mantell, which is very important, I think, 29 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000 and that is that the Mantell case came in the 1940s just after the birth of the flying saucer phenomenon, 30 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,000 if you like, when Kenneth Arnold had named the flying saucers. 31 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:21,000 And I think it's important to recognize the power of that image that Arnold created 32 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:28,000 because of what happened to Mantell, a sober, sensible, normal pilot who appears that say he did make a mistake. 33 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 It was led on by the publicity and the hype into this new phenomenon, 34 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 and it said a lot about how much of a grip this had on the American public in the 1940s. 35 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,000 It looked like it could be a quick fad, but of course it hasn't been. 36 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:47,000 But the Mantell case was one of the first deaths really associated with the subject and huge publicity. 37 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:53,000 The publicity generated by the Mantell case only added to the problems of Project Sign. 38 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,000 The situation went from bad to worse as more and more UFOs were sighted across the country. 39 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:08,000 On July 24, 1948, two pilots with Eastern Airlines reported having seen a bright cylinder-shaped object while flying over Alabama. 40 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Apparently they barely avoided a collision. 41 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Things were getting tense for military commanders. 42 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,000 They ordered Project Sign to produce a report assessing the current state of the situation. 43 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 What we do know about Project Sign is that right from the beginning, 44 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:36,000 analysts over at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio were divided as to what UFOs meant. 45 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Some said, yes, I believe this is evidence of extraterrestrial interplanetary aircraft. 46 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,000 This was not necessarily a minority viewpoint. 47 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 There were, however, others that said, no, no, that's impossible. 48 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 It cannot be that. It must be something on the fringes of science that we don't yet understand. 49 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Now, what appears to have shaken the Sign team up were a series of very important sightings that took place in the summer of 1948. 50 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:16,000 One was in the Netherlands and a few days later in the United States, in Alabama, 51 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 one took place of seemingly an identical object. 52 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:28,000 In both cases, it was an object that had very exceptional speed, was seen clearly, visually, by trained pilots, 53 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 and did things that aircraft weren't supposed to be able to do. 54 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:40,000 The Sign team apparently was very impressed by this and wrote what has been called the estimate of the situation. 55 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Now, we should state that no copy of the estimate has ever surfaced. 56 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 We think that the evidence is good that it did exist. 57 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,000 There are some very reputable people who have gone on the line to say, yes, I've read it. I know it's in it. 58 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Basically, the estimate was a document that the Sign team wrote up that said, yes, UFOs are real. 59 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 We believe they're interplanetary. 60 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,000 This was a document that landed on the desk of Air Force General Hoit Vandenberg. 61 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:25,000 According to the story, Vandenberg said, I'm not going to accept this conclusion. Give me something different. 62 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Whereupon the Sign team came back and gave him something different. 63 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,000 And after that, the extraterrestrial thesis went out of favor among Project Sign. 64 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Supposedly, after rejecting the initial conclusions of the estimate of the situation, 65 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,000 which stated that the flying saucers could be extraterrestrial in origin, 66 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:03,000 General Hoit S. Vandenberg gave the order to burn all copies of the report. 67 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:12,000 In February 1949, ATIC submitted a new official report, which contained no reference whatsoever to extraterrestrials. 68 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,000 However, the document did state that 20% of the sighted objects had not been identified. 69 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000 The Pentagon reacted by replacing Project Sign with another group, 70 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 whose job was to minimize sightings of questionable objects. 71 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,000 This group was known as Project Grudge. The Dark Age had begun. 72 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Eleven months later, an announcement was made that UFOs were nothing more than a case of mistaken identification, 73 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 mass hysteria, or hoaxes. Military commanders knew better. 74 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 In September 1951, after extraordinary sightings were reported over New Jersey, 75 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 the U.S. Air Force revived its Project Grudge. 76 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Captain Edward Ruppelt was assigned to the project. 77 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,000 But unlike his predecessors, Ruppelt refused to turn a blind eye to the UFO phenomenon. 78 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 He demanded that thorough investigations be carried out, 79 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,000 which led to the creation of Project Blue Book in 1952. 80 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,000 The arrival of Captain Ruppelt held in a new wave of public interest in UFOs. 81 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,000 It was hoped that Ruppelt would ensure that UFO investigations were impartial. 82 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Ruppelt hired a scientific advisor, Joseph Allen Heineck, 83 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,000 an astrophysicist affiliated with Northwestern University in Illinois. 84 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Unfortunately, political winds changed direction in July 1952, 85 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 when UFOs were sighted over the nation's capital. 86 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,000 General John Samford, spokesman for the U.S. Air Force, held a press conference 87 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 and stated that the lights were nothing more than a natural phenomenon 88 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 created by temperature inversions. 89 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 This explanation was hardly convincing. 90 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Several federal agencies in the U.S. 91 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,000 including the CIA were demanding a meeting. 92 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:06,000 They feared that the flying saucer mania would lead to mass hysteria throughout the country. 93 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 When this meeting was finally held in January 1953, 94 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 the CIA explained that it was vital to convince the public 95 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 that UFOs were nothing more than hoaxes or a case of mistaken identification. 96 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 The U.S. Air Force instructed Ruppelt to direct his efforts towards this goal. 97 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Project Blue Book became nothing more than a public relations agency. 98 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Ruppelt resigned a few months later, fed up with his new orders. 99 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Project Blue Book evolved out of the former project sign, 100 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 which then became something known as Project Grudge, 101 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 and that became Project Blue Book in the spring of 1952. 102 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:49,000 The reason it did is because of the upsurge of UFO sightings that took place at that time. 103 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:57,000 It was decided that this project required a little bit more status 104 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 within the Air Force chain of command, and it became Blue Book. 105 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Captain Ruppelt headed up Project Blue Book for about two years in 1952-53. 106 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,000 He led several good investigations, but there was a crisis situation in 1952 107 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 following the Washington Marigold round incident as it was known. 108 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 For two weekends in a row on both Saturday and Saturday nights, 109 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:28,000 the skies over Washington, D.C. were filled with UFOs, and this needed to be downplayed. 110 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 A large press conference was held in Washington, 111 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,000 during which the military claimed that the objects were nothing more than mirages, 112 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 but this explanation was not very convincing. 113 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 There was a change in policy within the organization, 114 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 and studies into UFOs were brought to a halt. 115 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,000 That's when Ruppelt decided to resign from Project Blue Book. 116 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Their job became to explain away. 117 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:55,000 We know this because of now declassified documents that lay out the matter very clearly 118 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,000 to the Blue Book staff, which is, you know, if you have something that is easily explainable, 119 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 this is what you tell the public. 120 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 If you have something that is not easily explainable, don't talk about it to the public. 121 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 It was a very clear recommendation. 122 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Their job was to get the unexplained percentage to an absolute rock bottom minimum. 123 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,000 The goal of Project Blue Book was now to find natural explanations for UFO sightings. 124 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 A key player in this game was Alan Hynek, 125 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:32,000 an astronomer who worked on the project for nearly 20 years until the end of the 1960s. 126 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,000 It was basically the first official investigation into the reports of UFOs. 127 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,000 There was no actual Blue Book, but Blue Book amounted to the codename 128 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000 for all the UFO reports being collected together and examined by the university, 129 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 apparently independent of the government. 130 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 In fact, it was more independent than the government probably intended, 131 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 because Hynek was Gamekeeper Turn Poacher. 132 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 He eventually became one of the leading lights of the UFO industry, 133 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 and indeed for some time he was kind of playing a double game. 134 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:07,000 But it took into account mainly lights in the sky and distant objects of flying saucers if you would, 135 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:16,000 but it also took in the high strangeness cases, such as the cases of entities seen in Kentucky, for example, in 1955. 136 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 And it would examine several of those kind of reports. 137 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 It was to some extent the cover-up. 138 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 They already had determined, the CIA had already determined, 139 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 that they were interested in certain aspects of the UFO phenomenon, 140 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 such as how rumour circulated amongst the population and so on. 141 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 So it was a study of a lot of that aspect as well. 142 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 It was in effect though, the first U.S. government study, 143 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:44,000 and it would lead on in the end to the Condom Report in 1969 in the government's, in due course. 144 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:11,000 The US Air Force quickly dispatched Alan Hynek to the scene. 145 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,000 The astrophysicist proposed that the phenomenon had been caused by methane swamp gases. 146 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,000 It was the beginning of the end for Project Blue Book. 147 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,000 The swamp gas incident that occurred in the 1960s, 148 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,000 which was particularly brought to bear by Professor Alan Hynek, 149 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 who wrote it up in his book, The Hynek UFO Reports and so on. 150 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Basically in Ann Arbor, in Michigan, there were a lot of reports of lights and so on in the skies. 151 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Looking back on that now, we might assume that if they weren't structured craft and so on, 152 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 which was obviously speculated by the UFO people at the time, 153 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,000 that they might be something more like tectonic activity that we've seen in places like Hesterlern and so on, 154 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,000 where we think that sort of earth movements are causing these lights. 155 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,000 But at the time, these lights were thought to be some sort of phenomenon at Ann Arbor. 156 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,000 And an explanation was given, which wasn't that absurd really, 157 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 which was that it could be igniting swamp gas that was creating the light. 158 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Unfortunately, it was kind of picked up by the tabloids of the time and so on. 159 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:23,000 And they made a big point about what seemed to be the government explaining away UFOs as just swamp gas. 160 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,000 And I think the government has done some stupid things and they quite rightly are pulled up by this. 161 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 But in fact, on this occasion, it may not have been that silly a case. 162 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Having said that, what happens when you get flaps like that, like Warminster, like Hesterlern, 163 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Gulf Breeze, Ann Arbor and so on, is that you've probably got real UFO incidents there. 164 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,000 And these other things get seen by people who get very excited and then the whole thing becomes a flap. 165 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 And of course, a lot of nonsense gets into the data reported. 166 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,000 I think there were probably some real cases in there, but unfortunately, the whole thing became a complete fiasco 167 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,000 because of this so-called cover-up of using the swamp gas explanation. 168 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Desatisfied with Hynex explanations, the press hounded Project Blue Book for the truth. 169 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:15,000 In the midst of the upheaval, military commanders set up an ad hoc committee made up of military officers and scientists. 170 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 They concluded that it would be best for a civil agency to take over, 171 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 relieving the Army once and for all of its UFO problem. 172 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,000 The Air Force dumped the problem into the lap of the University of Colorado. 173 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,000 So basically what had happened is that Project Blue Book had lost all credibility at this point. 174 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 The U.S. Air Force had lost credibility on this project. 175 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:44,000 People weren't believing the Air Force answers that it was all weather balloons, or it was all ball lightning, 176 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,000 or some other kind of, you know, the planet Venus every single time. 177 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:55,000 So that what the Air Force wanted to do, and had wanted to do for years, was to get rid of Project Blue Book somehow. 178 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Their problem had always been that they had conceded that UFOs might represent a problem of national security and defense. 179 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:11,000 And therefore, they could not come up with a good excuse for getting rid of Blue Book. 180 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:17,000 If they couldn't say that, you know, there's no security problem. 181 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 They were backed into a corner, in other words. 182 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,000 So what they did was in 1966 hand the ball over to the University of Colorado, 183 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:34,000 a very carefully selected institution, I might add, to study this matter once and for all that was believed in a scientific matter. 184 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:45,000 The Colorado Project, also known throughout history as the Condon Committee, lasted for about two years. 185 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Now, at the end of that time, the Condon Committee decided that UFOs were not worthy of scientific inquiry, 186 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 essentially nonsense, and that the Air Force should drop Project Blue Book. 187 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:09,000 The problem with the Colorado Project was that its director, Edward Condon, although he was a world-renowned physicist, 188 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:19,000 really knew nothing about UFOs, didn't want to know anything about UFOs, and was wrapped up with studying the crackpot cases 189 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:26,000 and had stated his position long before the project ended, that it was all nonsense, 190 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,000 long before they were supposed to have any conclusions. He was already stating them to the public, to the press. 191 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:41,000 There was essentially midway through the project, a mutiny among many of its members, who realized that this was a problem. 192 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,000 They realized that the director was preordaining a negative conclusion. 193 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Matters came to a head, and many of the staffers were fired midway through. 194 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:57,000 There's also a memorandum issued by the second in command of the project, a man by the name of Robert Lowe, 195 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:09,000 who in 1966, at the beginning of the project, wrote an internal only memo, which said that the trick of what we do will be to 196 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:19,000 convince other scientists that we are actually engaging in a serious study of this project, when in reality we have no expectation of finding anything at all. 197 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:27,000 That memo leaked out about a year into the project and caused a very, very big controversy. 198 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:35,000 So there were things like this that showed that the project may not have been an impartial study. 199 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Certainly if you review the Condon Committee report, there are many deep flaws with it. 200 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:47,000 It is a deeply, deeply flawed scientific document. The conclusions did not match the data. 201 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Some reports were well investigated, others were not. 202 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,000 And so that it was a very spotty report. 203 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 For a document that was supposed to solve the UFO controversy, it did not do it. 204 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Now, none of that really seemed to matter. 205 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:11,000 The Condon Committee report was released in January of 1969, and the press basically said, oh, okay, nothing to it. 206 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,000 End of story, the Air Force said, thank you very much. 207 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 We're done with Project Blue Book. By the end of the year, Project Blue Book had been disbanded. 208 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 So in a sense, the Condon Committee was messy, but it did the job. 209 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:36,000 The conclusions of Project Colorado were so incoherent that people wondered whether Dr. Condon had even bothered to read the report before drawing his own conclusions. 210 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Once the Condon report was released and Project Blue Book was disbanded, the U.S. Air Force disassociated itself with the UFO issue. 211 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Officially, that is. 212 00:19:48,000 --> 00:20:00,000 After 1969, the U.S. Air Force has continued to maintain that it no longer investigates reports of unidentified flying objects or UFOs. 213 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,000 This has been its consistent position now for over 30 years. 214 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 This is patently untrue. 215 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:26,000 We know, for instance, that there have been many intrusions of sensitive airspace that took place in the 1970s over the U.S. Northern border and in Canada at the Falcon Ridge Air Force Base in Ontario. 216 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Many airspace violations along the U.S. Northern border in November of 1975. 217 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,000 And this received significant attention by the U.S. military. 218 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 We know that they investigated it. 219 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:52,000 We also have a memo from 1969 by General Carol Bollander, which stated that the important UFO files that affected national security were not part of the Blue Book system. 220 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 He was very clear about this. 221 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:04,000 So that, certainly, there is more than sufficient reason to believe that UFO investigations continue. 222 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:14,000 There have been discussions of possible projects such as Aquarius, another project known as Moondust, and others. 223 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Projects such as these that have been said to exist. 224 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,000 And I think such projects probably do exist. 225 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:28,000 It's hard for me to say specifically, for example, what was the history of Project Aquarius. 226 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 We don't really have much information about this. 227 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:37,000 And the documents that discuss Project Aquarius have themselves been disputed in their authenticity. 228 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 It's very hard to know exactly what it was about. 229 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,000 What is clear is that examination and study and investigation of UFOs has continued to the present day. 230 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Today, the U.S. Air Force claims that all files relating to UFO sightings are available in National Archives. 231 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,000 But we have reason to believe that these archives are only the tip of the iceberg. 232 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 There are a number of astronauts I know who take this very seriously. 233 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,000 I've spoken to Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon Apollo 14. 234 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:22,000 He's told me he is convinced that there is a cover-up and that the United States has covered up information about a lot, 235 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:32,000 including Roswell, for over 50 years, and that the information is now held by a group that has spun off from the military intelligence organizations of the past. 236 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Gordon Cooper has a great interest in the subject. 237 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 I've communicated with him. 238 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:48,000 He has confirmed that when he was director of the Flight Test Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California, in the late 1950s, 239 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 a disc actually landed. 240 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:58,000 It extended tripod landing gear and landed on the dry lake bed and was filmed by his camera crew, 241 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,000 which were filming various experimental flights at that time. 242 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 He's confirmed that the disc was around 30 feet in diameter. 243 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:13,000 He did not see this event, but he studied the film and he was ordered to send it by pouch to Washington. 244 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,000 And it hasn't been seen or heard of since. 245 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Even though more than 30 years have elapsed since Project Blue Book, 246 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:29,000 chances are that the U.S. Air Force still has several UFO files locked in the vault somewhere. 247 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,000 State secrets that will remain secret for years to come. 248 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:46,000 After the Second World War, most NATO countries looked to the U.S. to solve the UFO problem. 249 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,000 But that didn't stop them from carrying out their own investigations. 250 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:02,000 In the early 1950s, the Canadian Air Force and the Department of Transportation held several meetings to discuss UFOs. 251 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 These meetings were known as Project Second Story. 252 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:13,000 In March 1953, the committee concluded that there wasn't anything in the UFO file worth pursuing. 253 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Up until 1967, when the Canadian Army released its UFO files to National Archives, 254 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:27,000 the military had done only a few cursory investigations to ensure that the sightings were not a risk to national security. 255 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Even today, the Army is keeping a discreet eye on UFO sightings, but only for security reasons. 256 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,000 It keeps a close watch on air traffic. 257 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:50,000 We know that all civil air traffic control towers throughout the country keep a UFO sighting checklist. 258 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000 When an air traffic controller receives a phone call from the public or from a pilot who has seen something strange in the sky, 259 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000 the controller must fill out a report and send it to the 22nd in North Bay, 260 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,000 an underground military base that monitors the entire Canadian airspace 261 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,000 and works closely with the Cheyenne military base in Colorado. 262 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:17,000 These are the basics that we know that anyone who is a member of the Cheyenne military base 263 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 can find out that there is nothing hidden. 264 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 It's all part of monitoring the Canadian territory. 265 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Whenever the Army detects an object flying in the Canadian airspace that refuses to identify itself 266 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:38,000 and to respond to radio calls, it has strict instructions to send up fighter jets to intercept the object. 267 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,000 In our case, these jets are CF-18As, otherwise known as hornets, 268 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,000 and they're usually launched from the third wing at the Bagotville military base. 269 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:55,000 The hornets' job is to intercept, identify and accompany an aircraft such as a Russian Tupolev 270 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000 to the international airspace where it belongs once it responds to the call sign. 271 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:09,000 If the object does not respond at all, the Army's last resort is to fire at the object with the intention of destroying it, 272 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000 because that's the Army's job. 273 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:20,000 And I think it's important to note that there's a difference between what we think the military does and what it actually does. 274 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,000 It can be summed up in three letters, IID, intercept, identify and destroy. 275 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,000 That's what the military does, that's what they're paid to do. 276 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,000 I would say that UFOs are pretty far down on their list of concerns. 277 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,000 They're not paid to study UFOs, that's not their job, 278 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,000 and I would even go so far as to say that they scoff at the whole idea of UFOs. 279 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:50,000 As long as national security is not in danger, they will come up with a story about how something strange was spotted in the sky 280 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 and the story will end there. 281 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:59,000 The information will be passed on to the NORAD base in Cheyenne, Colorado, but nothing more will be done about it. 282 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:07,000 Towards the end of the 1970s, all of the information was being passed on to the Hertzberg Institute in Ottawa, 283 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 which would put the information together. 284 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Then the RCMP would create a file from the information gathered. 285 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,000 This process ended around 1995-96 due to cuts by Brian Mulroney's conservative government, 286 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 and nothing has been happening since. 287 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:28,000 This means that the public shouldn't expect the military to be launching at the same time as the war. 288 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,000 The military should be ready to be launching any intensive investigations into the UFO phenomenon. 289 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:40,000 In the Canadian history of ufology, there was one case in particular that caught the attention of the Canadian forces. 290 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:48,000 A strange flying machine was spotted by prospector Stephen Michalak near Falcon Lake Manitoba in 1967. 291 00:27:49,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Stephen Michalak was an engineer, a very humble man, an immigrant from Poland from the time of the war. 292 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:12,000 In 1967, he was doing some amateur prospecting in a very remote area of Manitoba, 293 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 not too remote to be completely inaccessible. 294 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:22,000 In fact, just a matter of miles away from a very busy highway, but yet off the beaten track. 295 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:33,000 He had said that he was taking a break, eating his lunch, and had started to chip away at a rock formation 296 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,000 because there was much silver and gold and other minerals in the area. 297 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:45,000 In fact, he had state claims to that effect previously that he had seen an object, silver in color, 298 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:52,000 about 35 feet in diameter, shaped like a flying saucer, like we would imagine from a Hollywood movie, 299 00:28:52,000 --> 00:29:02,000 to land on a rock outcropping not that far away from him, shining very, very bright lights out of openings in its turret, its little dome. 300 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:10,000 After a while, a little door opened in the side of it, and he could see light coming from that too. 301 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,000 What is interesting is that he had not conceived that this was a spacecraft from outer space. 302 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:24,000 He thought immediately that this must have been some sort of American flying vehicle that was top secret 303 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 and had broken down and they had to make repairs so that nobody would see. 304 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,000 So he walked up to the craft a little ways away and shouted out, 305 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Hey Yankee boys, what's the matter? Your secret aircraft broke down? I'll give you a hand fixing it. 306 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:48,000 What had happened was, previous to him saying this, he had heard some voices coming out of this opening, 307 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:54,000 thinking that they were humans, perhaps. As soon as he called out to them, the voices stopped. 308 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:00,000 And he thought, oh no, maybe this isn't Americans. So he called out in Russian, 309 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,000 because he was fluent in a number of languages, asking the same thing. Still no response. 310 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 He tried German and his native tongue Polish as well. 311 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:19,000 He walked up to the doorway, put his hand, his gloved hand, he had rubberized gloves for dealing with rock chips on the side of the craft. 312 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Still thinking it was some sort of secret aircraft. 313 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:31,000 And had to pull away because the gloves melted, because the heat was so intense on the outside of this vehicle. 314 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,000 The door shut like a camera iris, whoof whoof whoof, like this. 315 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:45,000 And the whole object rose up slightly and began to turn so that there was an exhaust vent, 316 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:53,000 like a radiator grill in front of him. And a blast of hot gas hit him in the chest and the object took off. 317 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000 The blast of hot gas was hot enough that it actually set his clothes on fire. 318 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:11,000 And he quickly struggled to take off the clothes, throw them onto the ground and beat them out with some grass and some leaves and stomp on them. 319 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,000 But he started feeling very, very dizzy and nauseous and he was in pain. 320 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000 He did receive second and third degree burns. 321 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:29,000 He managed to walk out of the bush to where he was staying at a small motel a few miles away. 322 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,000 And decided that he would go back into Winnipeg seeking some medical help. 323 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:45,000 He arrived in Winnipeg a few hours later and had called his family to meet him at the hospital because he told them he had been burned by an aircraft. 324 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:55,000 The doctors at the hospital in Winnipeg treated him for the burns and didn't know what to make of some of his other effects. 325 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,000 He was dizzy, he was vomiting, he was very much out of sorts. 326 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Only later did he actually explain to his family what had happened. 327 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:18,000 And he thought that because this was some sort of secret aircraft and perhaps it wasn't a Canadian or American craft, that it was some other device that he should tell authorities about this. 328 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:26,000 So he contacted one of the newspapers in Winnipeg and told a reporter about his experience. 329 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:42,000 And when the reporter heard the fantastic story, it broke all across Canada in fact around the world and it became one of the most intensely investigated reports in all of North America. 330 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,000 At first the authorities turned over the investigation to Sergeant Paul Biskey of the Canadian Air Force. 331 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000 His report was filled with contradictions. 332 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Biskey recognized that Mikolak was honest, yet he remained convinced that the whole thing was nothing more than a hoax or a hallucination. 333 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Biskey was very much against the notion of flying saucers. 334 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:29,000 In fact, an interesting letter which we have found on file described how he was going to get Mr. Mikolak drunk at a bar to try and loosen his lips to come forth with the truth about what happened. 335 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:36,000 He was looking for any explanation, any reason why what Mikolak had said really didn't occur. 336 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000 And I believe was a detriment to the investigation. 337 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Perhaps dedicated, but he was so convinced that the case could not have occurred that perhaps he went a little bit overboard in his evaluation. 338 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Biskey's conclusions were not accepted unanimously by the authorities, especially since radioactive ground samples were taken from the site. 339 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000 I actually grew up very close to where Mr. Mikolak lived. 340 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000 In fact, as a child I played with one of his sons. 341 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:19,000 And I remember his son telling me one time that his father had been burned and was very, very sick, and I didn't think anything of it at the time. 342 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:28,000 But later on, as I continued my connection and relationship with the family, I became interested in the UFOs and flying saucers and asked for a reason. 343 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:39,000 I had more questions about what had happened and he showed me the burns on his legs and what was left on his body at that time. 344 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Some of the material that had been left and told me of his fantastic story. 345 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:53,000 So on the one hand we have a fantastic story, but it is backed up by some physical evidence, some material on the ground, 346 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:02,000 the evidence of the burns on his body, plus the astounding testimony and expert testimony of some of the investigators. 347 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:12,000 So I suppose depending on who you talk to it's either one of the best cases ever on record of a person encountering a flying saucer and being burned by it, 348 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 physically injured, or elaborate hoax. 349 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:22,000 And if it is an elaborate hoax, it is surely one of the most profound ever on record with the most incredible evidence. 350 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,000 The Mykolaq case was never really explained. 351 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Even today, 35 years later, part of the Mykolaq file is still inaccessible, classified as a state secret by National Defense. 352 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:57,000 In Europe, there is no Freedom of Information Act, so it is difficult to assess the role of the military with regards to UFOs. 353 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,000 We do know that the British government has always been interested in UFOs. 354 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Between 1991 and 1994, Nick Pope was in charge of studying reports of UFO sightings. 355 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:23,000 Between 1991 and 1994, my job at the Ministry of Defense was to research and investigate UFO sightings, 356 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:31,000 to evaluate them, to see if there was evidence of a threat to the defense of the United Kingdom. 357 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,000 So I would receive between two and three hundred reports each year, 358 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:46,000 and I would have to, to the best of my ability, to look at each one of these, to consider all the possible alternatives, 359 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000 and to try and find a conventional explanation. 360 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Now, I managed to find a conventional explanation with 90 or 95% of these sightings, 361 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:06,000 but that left me with a hard core, which I couldn't explain by conventional means. 362 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:19,000 I had that particular job for three years, but in various forms, that job or something very much like it has existed since 1950, 363 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000 and the work does continue to this day. 364 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Having said that, I think over the years, the way in which the subject has been treated has varied enormously. 365 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Sometimes due to the attitudes or belief of whoever is doing the job at the time, 366 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:49,000 so I, for example, was quite involved in the subject because I thought it was worthy of interest. 367 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Others, I think, over the years have taken a less involved view. 368 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,000 The British Ministry of Defense has been interested in UFOs since 1950. 369 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:07,000 The Churchill administration was concerned with the US situation, and the British press were a bunch of fearmongers. 370 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Military commanders were questioning the nature of these flying saucers. 371 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Could they be a new weapon being developed by the Russians? 372 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Yes, the British government's interest in UFOs dates back to about 1950, 373 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:39,000 and at that time, clearly we were aware of the situation in America with Kenneth Arnold's flying saucer sightings, 374 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,000 and we knew, of course, that Project Sine had been set up and Project Grudge, 375 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 and that, of course, evolved into Project Blue Book. 376 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:57,000 In 1950, a very eminent scientist in the British government, Sir Henry Tizard, 377 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000 one of the founding fathers of radar technology, 378 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:14,000 felt that UFO reports could not be dismissed and should not be dismissed without some form of proper investigation. 379 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And so the Air Force and Air Force Intelligence was tasked with setting up a working party to look into this. 380 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 This was known as the Flying Saucer Working Party. 381 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:38,000 It formed in 1950, and it reported formally its conclusions in 1951. 382 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Its conclusions were quite skeptical and drew heavily on the American party line, 383 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:52,000 that these things were generally either misidentifications or hoaxes. 384 00:39:52,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Having said that, when it reported and recommended that no further action was taken, 385 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:10,000 a year or so later this was overturned because of a high-profile series of UFO sightings involving the military. 386 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,000 But that is how the official interest started. 387 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:28,000 Once the Air Ministry and the Ministry of Defence had set up a small unit to look into these UFO sightings, 388 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:35,000 that project ran, and indeed to a certain extent still runs to this day. 389 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:46,000 The job that I did between 1991 and 1994 is simply the modern version of the research and investigation effort 390 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,000 that was set up in the early 50s and has run ever since. 391 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Now of course there have been changes in, of course, the personnel. 392 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:05,000 There have been changes in the way in which these incidents have been investigated, 393 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:12,000 but essentially it is the same project and the fundamental brief has not changed. 394 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:20,000 That is to look at the sightings to satisfy ourselves that there is evidence of no threat to the defence of our country. 395 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:28,000 By definition the army is secretive and doesn't reveal information to the public. 396 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000 It prefers to keep silent rather than work openly with ufologists. 397 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,000 But a few years ago the Belgian army decided to cooperate with a group of Brussels ufologists. 398 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Sobebs, the French acronym for the Belgian Society for the Study of Space Phenomena. 399 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,000 In the fall of 1989 an airship appeared over Belgium. 400 00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Witnesses described a large black triangular shaped craft with three flashing red lights. 401 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,000 In Brussels Sobebs was quickly inundated with reports of sightings. 402 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,000 The Belgian army agreed to cooperate with the ufologists and was ready to send up a reconnaissance aircraft. 403 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:24,000 On March 30th 1990 a triangle was detected on radar screens at Szemersack station. 404 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Just after midnight two F-16 fighter jets were sent up to pursue the object. 405 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:39,000 One of the F-16s had the UFO on its radar screen but the other aircraft was flying without radar. 406 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,000 The unidentified object took off at speeds that no human could withstand. 407 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,000 A few days later Colonel Wilfred de Bruyre, head of the Air Force, presented radar images to the press. 408 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:03,000 They were quite astounding. The images showed that the spacecraft had accelerated at a speed of 30 to 40 Gs. 409 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:13,000 At the same time Colonel de Bruyre rejected any possibility that the UFO could be some sort of secret prototype. 410 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000 The Belgian wave of sightings lasted until 1994. 411 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Now ten years later they have yet to come up with a concrete explanation for all of the sightings reported. 412 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:36,000 What's important to remember is not so much the sightings themselves but rather the open dialogue that took place between a group of ufologists and the National Army. 413 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000 This joint effort was much more important than you may think. 414 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:49,000 To carry out a thorough investigation researchers need to know all of the data and the best reports are often found in military files 415 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:57,000 because they are written by experienced pilots and they are supported by physical evidence such as radar echoes. 416 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:05,000 These files are rarely released to civilian researchers, the Army claiming that they must remain confidential for security reasons. 417 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,000 Ideally state agencies would be set up throughout the world, managed by an international body such as the UN. 418 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000 But the world is not ready for such an organization just yet. 419 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,000 Towards the end of the 1970s several meetings were held at the UN to discuss UFOs. 420 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Among those who attended were Professor Heineck, former advisor to the US Air Force, Astronaut Gordon Cooper and several other key figures. 421 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000 The meetings were presided by Kurt Waldheim who was Secretary General at the time. 422 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000 The idea was to hold an international debate on UFOs. 423 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:54,000 Unfortunately the meetings were short lived since an American diplomat threatened to complain to the Senate that American funds to the UN were being used to study UFOs. 424 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000 Proof that before God we are all equally wise and equally foolish.